The Black T-Shirts reveals continue. This week Adam Ferrier and Brent Smart are joined by Mia Freedman, co-founder of Mamamia and Nat Harvey, CEO of Mamamia.

Mamamia, Australia’s go-to media hub for women, has been serving up relatable and unfiltered content on everything from news and pop culture to parenting and personal growth since it launched in 2008.

In this episode of Black T-Shirts, Mia Freedman leads with her passion for authentic, women-first storytelling, while Nat Harvey details what it takes to run Australia’s largest independent women’s media group. Sex toys, superannuation and the issues facing some of Australia’s traditional media outlets are discussed in a frank conversation with one of Australia’s most powerful publishing team.

Black T-Shirts is the world’s only podcast dedicated to XXL creativity for business. It is available via premium podcast creators, MIK Made, and you can also listen now for the first time as a vodcast on the Black T-Shirts YouTube channel.

Adam Ferrier is the founder of award-winning creative company Thinkerbell, Brent Smart is CMO at one of the world’s largest telecommunications companies, Telstra.

Black T-Shirts is supported by mixed media modelling company, Mutinex. The Pub Test is brought to you by ultra fast and accurate research platform, Ideally.

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